13 - 10. 994 Matches. (DPS Threat achieved) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. S. Thresholds How many players have reached a tier. Search Summoner. Gives you stable DPS early, as well as a good chunk of AP. But my most flex is definitely 120 different champs with S- or higherThe improved OP Score allows precise tracking of the user’s stats based on their play time. Riot should re-enact bans. Yes, but that doesn't answer specifically why it's ADCs though. Edit: Downvoted by a Yasuo main, lol. The worst part about this is I'm like 90% sure they were planning on having a challenge class for tanks/supports. Otherwise almost always take conquer. Ryze doesn't need damage buffs. r/ARAM • Pov: you have little to no engage and the enemy team is sitting under tower constantly clearing the minions from a safe distance and you're begging them to let you play the game. Kennen is epic as well. SEA Servers OPEN! 🇸🇬 🇹🇭 🇵🇭 🇹🇼 🇻🇳 Select your Region and Search your Summoner Name! 440. Find a Teammate. 38/60 = . Similarly, your solo Q rating will be different from than duo queue rating. Aurelion Sol still has the greatest proportion of S votes at 63. Well timed deaths meant that you could come back in time to defend. over-focusing on DPS or KDR, when they could max their W second, lay out a powerful, lingering slow across the entire damn bridge, throw some Q's out, and let their Team get their licks in, Ulting the instant it. Teemo, shaco, maokai, heimer and anivia. 93. DPS stands for Damage per second. I even go quite well with AD's like GP (I went 32/4 and next in team was 4/6, still didnt get solo carry), Ez, Draven, Jhin, Varus. This is a free win for rammus. View the top-leaderboards and thresholds for any region. -stay in the middle at all costs, if enemy flanks from the side just move to the opposite side of the lane, form a tighter group and ignore. Home. Riot really needs to tune up that challenge, the 2 times I did get it in hundreds of games was with 2 afks I got dps threat literally hundreds of times and this not even thrice, it makes no sense you can finish the "hardest" challenge and goal in. Dps threat. Decimator: Get two pentakills in one game. (DPS Threat achieved)Looking for ARAM players to play with. Grow a pair. Tier. r/ARAM. Ex. ARAM games only. High. and seeing which gives best overall dps, best overall sustain, and best overall defensively. 366 / 0Victoria 0Derrota WinRate 0% / Gwen - 2Victoria 3Derrota WinRate 40%, Samira - 3Victoria 0Derrota WinRate 100%, Pyke - 2Victoria 1Derrota WinRate 67%, Karma - 1Victoria 1Derrota WinRate 50%, Alistar - 1Victoria 1Derrota WinRate 50%. 15. Even before this, ARAM accounts didn't really matter since anyone good enough. I have actually gotten DPS threat on her, Soraka has got to be the hardest. Aram Warrior (8 challenges, 650 points for master): • No Hiding: Kill enemies near one of their own turrets in ARAM (2. It was basically combination of adcs, supports and waveclear mages. 500 for master): grind • Bad Medicine: Kill opponents who recently received a health pack in ARAM (150 for master): grind • Dps Threat: Deal more than 1800 Damage Per Minute in ARAM games (10 for master): grind The Answer is always big damage number make brain release chemicals that's feel good. Deal more than 1800 Damage Per Minute in ARAM games (Updated 4 days ago) Global br euw eune jp kr lan las na oc ru tr ph sg th tw vn. Giving me something similar for tanks and supports would at least make those games not feel so wasted. 2. I even go quite well with AD's like GP (I went 32/4 and next in team was 4/6, still didnt get solo carry), Ez, Draven, Jhin, Varus. 43K subscribers in the ARAM community. There's a dagger in the middle of the team, kat shunpo and ults. Anyammis • •. That’s kinda what happened in the Lillia game. . 2. Both of these will make sure you are never standing still long. About Updates. -stay in the middle at all costs, if enemy flanks from the side just move to the opposite side of the lane, form a tighter group and ignore. GG Thresh ARAM build shows best Thresh ARAM runes by WR and popularity. All the challenges available for ARAM, can you complete them to become an ARAM God? ARAM God. These are the funnest of games. U. Fucking, finally. Picks: Zac, Alistar, Ezreal, Xayah, Zilean. Does anybody know why i am not being promoted to challenger? The challenges or rather the ranks update every day at a certain time. You can’t expect to win ARAM matches in a series and then expect to have a higher MMR for the classic 5v5 game as well. The OP Score is calculated every 5 minutes in ranked and regular games, and every 3 minutes in the Howling Abyss, allowing for a more detailed analysis of. ARAM is not fun anymore. The lower bound for Challenger (and maybe GM as well, i wouldn't know) increases every day in order to keep only the top players in there, so once you fall below the boundary you can drop out. A sub for League of Legends ARAM (all-random, all-mid) game mode players. ARAM Winrate Tier List. Tanks/supports are my most preferred role so now I feel. In conclusion, ARAM is a popular game mode in League of Legends that provides players with a fun and less stressful gaming experience. Dps threat. 1. Ryze if you can get lucky and exe while they’re fighting (20 second timer on damage counter is forever in aram) twitch, Evelynn, teemo, akshan and rengar invisibility can work if you’re smart and lucky. When you go to the "challenges"-tab on your profile and select one, you can see the time of the ladder update. They all went lethality. Most assassins are very one note or telegraphed. (DPS Threat achieved)DPS Threat / Gold 3 2LP / 5Wygrana 6Przegrana Win Rate 45% / Gwen - 2Wygrana 3Przegrana Win Rate 40%, Samira - 3Wygrana 1Przegrana Win Rate 75%, Pyke - 3Wygrana 1Przegrana Win Rate 75%, Gragas - 2Wygrana 1Przegrana Win Rate 67%, Shyvana - 1Wygrana 2Przegrana Win Rate 33%It's a super strong dive comp, malph, orn , alkali, kass, zed. Later in game you're the perfect peel for your DPS threats. Take ultimate hunter if your champion relies heavily on ultimate cdr (vlad, amumu). A sub for League of Legends ARAM (all-random, all-mid) game mode players. ago. 366 / 0Win 0Lose Win Rate 0% / Gwen - 2Win 3Lose Win Rate 40%, Samira - 3Win 0Lose Win Rate 100%, Pyke - 2Win 1Lose Win Rate 67%, Karma - 1Win 1Lose Win Rate 50%, Alistar - 1Win 1Lose Win Rate 50%DPS Threat / Gold 3 2LP / 5Win 6Lose Pobeda 45% / Gwen - 2Win 3Lose Pobeda 40%, Samira - 3Win 1Lose Pobeda 75%, Pyke - 3Win 1Lose Pobeda 75%, Gragas - 2Win 1Lose Pobeda 67%, Shyvana - 1Win 2Lose Pobeda 33%Early game, suiciding among the enemy (or enemy creep wave) means the opposing team should rarely exert pressure on your towers before you are back alive. ago. I have actually gotten DPS threat on her, Soraka has got to be the hardest. Nexus Blitz. 54. but now they want to nerf it so no more fun i guess. League of Legends; N Duo;One essentially has to pray that the Veigar is 2head and wastes it, otherwise you just have to wait for it on when you're using any melee champ. A sub for League of Legends ARAM (all-random, all-mid) game mode players. I'm looking for the Top 3 in NA. Most players are also aware of these weaknesses since he's so commonly played through LoL. DUO. So we came up with the following (subjective) results (we introduced the "major" and "minor" distinction because there were just too many fitting options): Lawful good: Major: Using Rerolls. ARAM to ARAH. Tier. DPS Threat. Twisted Fate is the longer horizontal-range, micro-intensive version of Ashe and Kai'Sa's OSC (one skill champion) gameplay. Riot Games has made several updates and reworks to ARAM to make the gameplay more engaging and exciting. View the top-leaderboards and thresholds for any region. It means getting 8 kills without dieing. (DPS Threat achieved)ARAM was a constant swing between the two teams in part because of the death timers. DPS Threat / Lv. Valheim Genshin. 38K subscribers in the ARAM community. Legends say their players sometimes remember about W's and R's existence. Just imagine if you could have both speedy boots and magic pen. If you were at the enemies nexus turrets, I'd stay and try and get their health bars low so the next fight is free. this should be added to like the sidebar or stickied on top of the subreddit! I played with the #4 ranked challenger in dps threat a few days ago and he was at 307 at. Challenges are designed to provide meaningful progression to all League players—so not just Ranked ravagers, but ARAM aficionados, Clash contenders, and cosmetic collectors too. Blows my mind whenever I see it lol Reply. Playing Nasus on ARAM is plain masochism. 3% win rate with 3. ago. That being said it's the wrong. stalinskatya 1 yr. There are no longer any champions that have received 0. 72K subscribers in the akalimains community. Plaster III - 0 LP w: 56 - l: 46 Defeat! - Score : 10/12/27 - value: -28 date : 4/15/2023, 5:09:29 AM Defeat! - Score : 18/12/15 - value: -23 date : 3/31/2023,. By the time they kill me, bring wave down to our towers at least 1 or 2. All about the 'DPS Threat' Challenge. Bait them into impatience and capitalize when they overextend. Join. Build death dance on every bruiser and sometimes assassins too. Recently Played With (Recent 20 Games) Recently Played With (Recent 20 Games) Summoner. Tier List. It'd be Poro King without the Poro King. 4)withdraw and prepare for next minion wave. Riot’s FAQ said that grandmaster is the top 25% of people who have reached master and challenger is the top 5%. Hey guys i was wondering what rank you are in DPS Threat and what the #1 on EUW is. I pick based on what the team needs unless one of my favorite carries comes up, so get to play all kinds of champs and since you're just learning them mechanically rather than role-based - lower learning curve. I'm looking for the Top 3 in NA. 23 the best build for Mordekaiser is Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Plated Steelcaps, Jak'Sho, The Protean, Demonic Embrace, and Thornmail. this is how it works. Mine is fine. °^ Should happen in about 12 hours. There's no challenge for being a tank in ARAM There's no challenge for being a support in ARAM There's no challenge for surviving a tower diving in ARAM The ones that exists consists into: "Ok, just don't die and deal tons of damage. 3. I left the game at the very beginning of the lobby because a friend just connected and ask me to play a game of Overwatch, so I dodged and when we got back to league 15min later, the game was going on and we lost shortly after, I don't mind the reports but still wasting others people time is frustrating. Raynor: Raynor has one of the longest ranges in the game for the Ranged DPS and has a knockback. ago. 292. After thousands of games, here I would like to mention some components that have made ARAM unplayable, at least for me. That said, I'm not at risk of dropping out, so I have no empirical evidence for this. With skill order and items, this Thresh guide offers a. DPS Threat. expertise . 8%. Thresholds How many players have reached a tier. r/ARAM. Fiddlesticks is great too. 123. . Yeah, after a cup of coffee it makes sense to me now. Why do Varus players always go full lethal builds against teams of tanks? Last 5 games with Varus on my team. And if that’s not enough, once you’ve hit Master, many challenges also have. Executes worked after 10 minute and to fountain as well. New comments cannot be posted and votes. Imagination Category. GG Thresh ARAM build shows best Thresh ARAM runes by WR and popularity. This is a term used to describe how much Damage a Champion deals over a period of time. Deal more than 1800 Damage Per Minute in ARAM games (Updated 1 hour ago) Global br euw eune jp kr lan las na oc ru tr ph sg th tw vn. Lissandra and Annie are great as well. A sub for League of Legends ARAM (all-random, all-mid) game mode players. Shaco: honestly needs to be deleted in general, not just ARAM. 5 and onwards. As follow up to her changes in the last patch, we’re toning down her scaling damage a bit and hitting her favorite cat so Zeri is a bit less scary. 0 coins. Aram Finesse Group: Pop Goes the Poro - Cause a Poro to explode (No explanation needed) Free Ticket to Base - Execute to turret before 10 minutes Executes only occur if you have NOT been hit for 20 seconds by an enemy champion. 3. . All Random All Champions: 2022 & Rapid Demolition: 2022); ARAM Authority; ARAM Warrior; ARAM Legend; DPS Threat; Double Decimation; Bad Medicine, No Hiding,. It will lvl naturally very easily, don't actively chase it. ago. In each category, there are specific challenges that you can complete and show them off later via Tokens or Titles. 2. Zilian, morgana, nami and some other supports are always useful due to cc, wave clear or team fight utility etc. 0% and now the ones that were like 0. I hate Challenges. DPS Threat / Gold 3 2LP / 5Win 6Lose Win Rate 45% / Gragas - 4Win 1Lose Win Rate 80%, Gwen - 2Win 3Lose Win Rate 40%, Samira - 3Win 1Lose Win Rate 75%, Pyke - 3Win 1Lose Win Rate 75%, Shyvana - 1Win 2Lose Win Rate 33%DPS Threat / Gold 3 2LP / 5Win 6Lose Win Rate 45% / Gwen - 2Win 3Lose Win Rate 40%, Samira - 3Win 1Lose Win Rate 75%, Pyke - 3Win 1Lose Win Rate 75%, Gragas - 2Win 1Lose Win Rate 67%, Shyvana - 1Win 2Lose Win Rate 33%I played 5 aram games so far, varying from 109 to 138 exp per game (4 wins and 1 loss, but the loss didn't seem to affect exp gain). P. There's not very much damage and by the time you proc cosmic drive you've already ulted. All about the 'DPS Threat' Challenge. All about the 'DPS Threat' Challenge. Katarina unlike most assassins has alot of versatility. ARAM has a bunch of spaghetti bugs since last Patch. A sub for League of Legends ARAM (all-random, all-mid) game mode players. 27 at 02:29 UTC Based on ripyanfeng. ARAM. Minor: Pinging Heals. Brand is still the least controversial champion with a standard deviation of 0. ago. Reply . ago. This might go a little off-topic but bear with me: Duskblade has no counter-play in ARAM. ARAM balance is something else for sure and it's starting to show that % buffs and nerfs were the wrong kind of adjustments even though it's just a "fun gamemode". And if that’s not enough, once you’ve hit Master, many challenges also have. Ideal Strong Ok Low None. 10:04 PM · Aug 15, 2022. I mean, I somewhat disagree. • Dps Threat: Deal more than 1800 Damage Per Minute in ARAM games (10 for master): grind • Aram Legend: Go Legendary in ARAM games (15 for master): First let´s specifiy what "going legendary" even means. You can play a lot of mind tricks with snowball and deliveries in all these champs. Low. I feel this champ is still too strong even after getting some reduction in his nerfs. Anyone knows how to switch category ? I am Grandmaster and my badge says 103, I passed the person that was at 100. (The map is narrowed enough, now we are making it even narrower & easier for teams with heavier CC to dominate the game)dps threat diff / Lv. A sub for League of Legends ARAM (all-random, all-mid) game mode players. View the top-leaderboards and thresholds for any region. Advertisement Coins. Akshan is one of the worst adc you can play. Rushing heal reduction shuts down his early and it's. I'd imagine that you definitely can. View the top-leaderboards and thresholds for any region. I'd go play normals or just stop procrastinating and either do drugs, doomscroll tiktok, make my own game, raise children, or touch grass. 99. All about the 'DPS Threat' Challenge. DragonOfDuality. A sub for League of Legends ARAM (all-random, all-mid) game mode players. A sub for League of Legends ARAM (all-random, all-mid) game mode players. Explore Gaming. If i wanted a marksman i would Pick smth that. 4. Maybe he just meant on that map. The build you chose is pretty solid. So, if you're bad at malphite, it's better to go tank, because at least you're still a tank. For example, a Champion. (Almost) top 3300 for DPS Threat ReplyR - Grandmaster’s Might. 429 "Too Many Requests" I'm guessing everyone has that one buff/nerf they just can't get their head over whether it's talked about a lot or not, it doesn't necessarily have to be OP or game-breaking, just has to be confusing (or cause similiar feelings). For the match I assume. but if Triumph ever gets changed, still have to look at it again. Vex is one of my favorites. Hey guys i wanted to know what you guys "DPS Threat, All Random All Champions and Rapid Demolition" rank is. Topic Archived. In many ways bans would infinitely increase my quality of life and effect. 8k+. If there is a magic solution please enlighten me. tiethy • 13 hr. aram really sucks when one team gets a well rounded comp with all the ops and the other team gets a random shit comp . 58% WR. His build revolves around dealing heavy AOE damage while staying out of trouble the whole time. For me it has to be Lulu and how she gets +%10 shielding while almost every other enchanters' shield gets nerfed. The Answer is always big damage number make brain release chemicals that's feel good. 0 comments. Sorry this is my first post here and I didn't see any mention of this when I searched for it* As of the new patch you can now track which champions you have and have not earnt a S- grade on for the "All Random All Champions" challenge. You get backline access with ult, mobility, and plenty of cc. Now how to actually get out of people believing your SR rank is any indicator: get to a decent enough MMR by winning more. Summoner spells already have significantly increased summoner spell haste in ARAM, at best you are getting like 5 seconds shaved off something like Exhaust, because Lucidity also gives summoner spell haste. The milestone for grandmaster started at 29 games for me about two-ish weeks back, then it suddenly increased to 30, then 32 games. You can pop off early-mid game but come late game your dmg lack compared to most of the adc-s. When you go to the "challenges"-tab on your profile and select one, you can see the time of the ladder update. 28,96666667 minutes) DMP = 52 162 / 28,96666667 = 1800,759494 DMG, so above the 1800 DPM threshold to achieve the token. Surtout qu'en Aram il n'existe que deux challenges : Menace DPS et Aram eradication (le truc des pentas) Pseudo supprimé. Pray God they don't buff his damage or he'll actually start being spammed. That requires more patience than the average ARAM player possesses, I think. Just hit grandmaster #1400 on DPS Threat. DPS Threat: ARAM only: Deal more than 1800 Damage Per minute in ARAM games – ARAM: Imagination: ARAM Warrior: Farm Champs Not Minions: ARAM only: Get Takedowns in ARAM – ARAM: Imagination: ARAM Warrior: No Hiding: ARAM only: Kill enemies near one of their own turrets in ARAM – ARAM: Imagination: ARAM. Vyynn • Additional comment actions. 0 coins. Buy Ziggs, Lux, Jayce, Nidalee, Karthus, Blitzcrank, Ahri, Viktor, Sona, Amumu. The average player will struggle to be able to do anything with most melee champs and are essentially useless if they don't have the potential to 1 shot, it just becomes frustrating when those champions are in the hands of. Advertisement Coins. S2020 gold 4. Go to ARAM r/ARAM • by OverdriverJC. Like Sona, Ziggs often sported a 70%+ win rate in the game mode due to his unrelenting long-range poke damage and his unrivaled turret-taking ability. Most of the games now are decided the first 5-7 minutes, and they do not last longer than 20 minutes. imagination . Adc and support winrates continued to climb until 2-3 on a team and then declined. DPS is usually used in relation to a longer duration rather than a short and quick one. Teamwork & Strategy: Challenges focused on working together with your team to dominate the Rift. Question about DPS Threat Challenger. Riot is enabling players to earn Mastery Tokens from ARAM games in Patch 13. 0 coins. I just got it back, but this time there was a message along with an challenger icon that flashed on screen that stated "Snoopy is Mine". Vote. Deal more than 1800 Damage Per Minute in ARAM games (Updated 19 minutes ago) Global br euw eune jp kr lan las na oc ru tr ph sg th tw vn. Challenges are designed to provide meaningful progression to all League players—so not just Ranked ravagers, but ARAM aficionados, Clash contenders, and. On sr akshan is good because he can pick off targets and snowball from early 1v1 lead. Didn't catch what it said below that though. Rammus is a balanced champion in aRAM. You can level up individual challenges from Iron all the way to Master. • 1 mo. back to poke and sitting behind turret with. Step 2: Get free DPS Threats . DPS Threat (1800DPM) /Tiers (-,-,1,2,4,7,10) - Just play games with high dps champions such as Karthus, Jhin, Twitch and you will get this in no time. hehtime. Intermediate Strategies: include relevant decision making to champion abilities (champions you play and playing against enemy champions), team compositions (your team and enemy team), and getting more into the specifics for each of the play styles (Assassin, ADC - melee, ADC - ranged, APC, Tank, Support), choosing which abilities to level up. Finish void staff and last item nashor's (or lich bane if you're playing more hit-and-run). A sub for League of Legends ARAM (all-random, all-mid) game mode players. Weird how my own culture of ARAM has changed with challenges. Apparently Ashe build doesn't matter after Imperial Mandate. I'd love to see some new additions to the challenges roster soon. Edit 3: I have now realized that you Aram players only like things when it benefits you. Free ticket to base. The only ARAM Tier list you need for the newest patch. im personally waiting for a full bee team. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. The description was wrong when i did it, not sure if they fixed it yet. • 2 yr. Thanks for the advice man, but most of my DPS Threat games (and most of my games in general) have been on AoE/Burn/Carry mages like Ahri, Brand, Anivia, Cass, Liss, Syndra. leaguestats. DPS Threat. If there is a magic solution please enlighten me. ago. Another one i thought i would have troubles with. You all just need to keep her in your mind at all times so that you're able to immediately switch to her when she takes a step too close. Challenge Top x% Date; Challenge Category Description Progress Top x%40 - ARAM GGODD - Bronze V - 1684 LP 41 - Gromzard - Bronze V - 1670 LP 42 - Jean Foutr3 - Bronze V - 1656 LP 43 - trâsh star - Bronze V - 1651 LP 44 - Miasmica - Bronze V - 1645 LP 45 - eaeh - Bronze V - 1636 LP 46 - Motares - Bronze V - 1626 LP 47 - Mantì - Bronze V - 1582 LP 48 - lacκing - Bronze V - 1517 LP19 votes, 23 comments. A sub for League of Legends ARAM (all-random, all-mid) game mode players. Deal more than 1800 Damage Per Minute in ARAM games. View the top-leaderboards and thresholds for any region. Aftershock for any melees that have a non-ult hard cc. DPS Threat / Gold 3 2LP / 5Seier 6Tap Vinn Rate 45% / Gragas - 4Seier 1Tap Vinn Rate 80%, Gwen - 2Seier 3Tap Vinn Rate 40%, Samira - 3Seier 1Tap Vinn Rate 75%, Pyke - 3Seier 1Tap Vinn Rate 75%, Shyvana - 1Seier 2Tap Vinn Rate 33%ARAM puts such a high premium on health that any item without survivability. Seems impossible unless they had multiple warmogs on the other team intentionally feeling them damage. i am grinding the all random all champions one, currently have 28 champs,. Heal kitty. Threat: Deal more than 1800 Damage Per Minute: Double Decimation: Get two. The base damage is low compared to the AP ratio, so will only get better as the game goes on. I will get it every time with Heimie and I'm far from a. ago. Lissandra and Annie are great as well. Highest Win Rate Champions on ARAM on Patch 13. Don't bother worrying about this. For me it has to be Lulu and how she gets +%10 shielding while almost every other enchanters' shield gets nerfed. ago. your own teammates strive to make it difficult for you to farm your Q, its like playing against 9 enemies. Her shorter range brought in many new avenues of counterplay early in the game which was one of our major goals, but she's still a bit too consistent of a DPS threat at her three item power spike. 1 comment. fael_7 • 2 yr. 224 / 0Win 0Lose Win Rate 0% DPS Threat: Description: Deal more than 1800 DPM: ARAM Legend: Description: Go Legendary: Farm Champs Not Minions: Description: Get Takedowns: Leading by Example: Description: Get an assist streak of 12+ without dying: ARAM Eradication: Description: Get Pentakills: Solo Carry: Description: Deal 40%+ of your team's champion damage: Team Diff. Challenger DPS Threat ARAM Commentary. I exclusively play Poke ashe on aram and get dps threat every game while providing insane CC. Never Rylai's; slows don't stack. 27 votes, 35 comments. Adcs are hella important in Aram because dps. Otherwise almost always take conquer. DPS Threat / Lv. I have been grinding ARAM for achievement and I was curious as to why I dont get challenger on "DPS Threat" when I have 59 of the 58 required points to achieve that as seen here : Perhaps master is the highest ranking one can aquire with that particular achievement? If so then that would be a bit strange as there are several other. Most if all people are wired like that. Increase Death Shroud's range by 33%, reduce its cooldown by 3 seconds, and reduce its Mana cost from 50 to 30. However, looking at the ARAM challanges you can see that the vast majority is about damage outcome. The corki build is actually op against squishys, zwag did a few vids on the build recently. Thank you! I seem to play after ladder reset every night lol so this explains it. Members Online • The_Sneakiest_Fox. DuckIsRuh • 1 yr. Expertise, Teamwork & Strategy, Imagination, Veterancy, and Collection are the five categories of Challenges and they scale from Iron to Challenger. 44K subscribers in the ARAM community. Thresholds How many players have reached a tier. I didn't get even one yet even with really fed high damage poke champions, this is way too hard lmao. Points % CHALLENGER. A lot of people even at high mmr think so, but it's extremely inefficient on ranged champs.